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My two sons are the offspring of a second-generation Chinese mother. Both parents China born. Extended family all moderate myopes. Being emmetropic myself, so glad my sons followed suit.
An emmetropic optometrist. Thats a small club I bet.My two sons are the offspring of a second-generation Chinese mother. Both parents China born. Extended family all moderate myopes. Being emmetropic myself, so glad my sons followed suit.
Low to moderate myopia is the superior visual status. Not a "disease". MYopia is genetic, but there is a lot of variety in inheritance.Emmetropic mother (later presbyopic of course) and low myope father. High myope myself and my sister was a moderate myope. Lots of emmetropes and hyperopes on my mother's side. On my father's side, lots of high myopes so I know where I must have gotten it from!
Hi Mike.Low to moderate myopia is the superior visual status. Not a "disease". MYopia is genetic, but there is a lot of variety in inheritance.
All depends on their individual visual needs. I had myself corrected to -1.25 after cataract surgery and have zero regrets. Never wear glasses at work which is where I spend most of my life. Throw on some distance only glasses when I drive or go to a ballgame.Hi Mike.
Are we talking plano to -1.25D? Ask any athlete or any hunter/gatherer what is the preferred refractive error. I also wonder if people were getting monofocal IOLs, would they ask to have a -3.00 endpoint or would they prefer plano to -0.50?
Yes, -1.25 for office based computer users is certainly pretty ideal. As a skier, I enjoy having great distance vision and just wearing non prescription goggles. I am plano in one eye and -0.50 in the other. I do wear Office PALs at work.All depends on their individual visual needs. I had myself corrected to -1.25 after cataract surgery and have zero regrets. Never wear glasses at work which is where I spend most of my life. Throw on some distance only glasses when I drive or go to a ballgame.
Asians are planning to wipe out the emmetropic population.Why is it that scientist are predicting that 50% of the population will have clinically significant myopia by 2050?
Oh you’re the guy’s oculars I have to adjust every time. How’s BIO at -1.25D?All depends on their individual visual needs. I had myself corrected to -1.25 after cataract surgery and have zero regrets. Never wear glasses at work which is where I spend most of my life. Throw on some distance only glasses when I drive or go to a ballgame.
That'll be my preferred outcome after cataract surgery some day. I'm already used to wearing glasses for far, and I like being able to read in bed at night uncorrected. It would annoy the heck out of me to need to reach for a pair of readers all the time.Low to moderate myopia is the superior visual status. Not a "disease". MYopia is genetic, but there is a lot of variety in inheritance.
My first reaction to this data......
-1.00 to -3,00 in my opinion. Hunter gatherers are rare birds in the modern world. We need to see critically up close.. Athletes can easily and safely wear contacts, as I, a high myope, have done since teen years. Calling myopia a disease is nonsense. It is often an inconvenience, but then myopes are the superior students, aren't they.? Also very common in scientists. and O.D.s. Thank God for myopia.Hi Mike.
Are we talking plano to -1.25D? Ask any athlete or any hunter/gatherer what is the preferred refractive error. I also wonder if people were getting monofocal IOLs, would they ask to have a -3.00 endpoint or would they prefer plano to -0.50?
ExactlyThat'll be my preferred outcome after cataract surgery some day. I'm already used to wearing glasses for far, and I like being able to read in bed at night uncorrected. It would annoy the heck out of me to need to reach for a pair of readers all the time.
Good choice.All depends on their individual visual needs. I had myself corrected to -1.25 after cataract surgery and have zero regrets. Never wear glasses at work which is where I spend most of my life. Throw on some distance only glasses when I drive or go to a ballgame.
I don't think "myopia is genetic" is a reasonable conclusion when the incidence of myopia has increased substantially in a generation. -CharlieLow to moderate myopia is the superior visual status. Not a "disease". MYopia is genetic, but there is a lot of variety in inheritance.
Valid point. What about the kids that all have their nose buried in an iphone starting when there are still teething and they stay inside playing video games instead of playing outside and getting any natural daylight.I don't think "myopia is genetic" is a reasonable conclusion when the incidence of myopia has increased substantially in a generation. -Charlie
Maybe only nearsighted people are reproducing.I don't think "myopia is genetic" is a reasonable conclusion when the incidence of myopia has increased substantially in a generation. -Charlie
A lecturer once flippantly said there are more myopes now because with the advent of glasses and contacts they can find each other and reproduce.Maybe only nearsighted people are reproducing.
A dominate gene? Not that anyone's shown that.
"playing outside and getting any natural daylight."
You nailed it, H.C. Also, the detection of myopia has increased, not the incidence.Maybe only nearsighted people are reproducing.
A dominate gene? Not that anyone's shown that.
This is so true. Without our correction for -3.50 and -6 myopia (me), we wouldn't have been able to drive our cars to our first date. It was a real "blind date" indeed. Eventually 2 terrific kids, their myopia genetically matching us. Indisputable proof of the genetic basis of myopia, the superior visual state. .A lecturer once flippantly said there are more myopes now because with the advent of glasses and contacts they can find each other and reproduce.
I played outside all day in the 50s and 60s , and was a progressive myope. My son rarely played outside, was on devices constantly, and his myopia equals mine. So this outdoor play/light hypothesis is bunk.Valid point. What about the kids that all have their nose buried in an iphone starting when there are still teething and they stay inside playing video games instead of playing outside and getting any natural daylight.
Does that have an impact on their vision development?
Yes, but not everyone is myopic. Some people have a genetic propensity to become myopic and our modern lifestyle is causing those genes to manifestI don't think "myopia is genetic" is a reasonable conclusion when the incidence of myopia has increased substantially in a generation. -Charlie
Asians are planning to wipe out the emmetropic population.
Same here! We'd run around the neighborhood and ride our bikes everywhere, until the moms called us in. Still ended up -800 ballpark. Less now post presbyopia. My increasing dislike of night driving heralds lenticular changes despite still-great acuities.I played outside all day in the 50s and 60s , and was a progressive myope. My son rarely played outside, was on devices constantly, and his myopia equals mine. So this outdoor play/light hypothesis is bunk.
Darrell Schlange.Funny at ICO on the 70s we were taught the correlation between near work and myopia.....
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Percent Myopia in Olmsted County, Minnesota, from 1966 to 2019.
63% seem high to anyone?
https://www.ajo.com/article/S0002-9394(23)00438-5/fulltext
High myopia more than doubling seems bizarre. Their parents were high myopes then.View attachment 44807
Percent Myopia in Olmsted County, Minnesota, from 1966 to 2019.
63% seem high to anyone?
https://www.ajo.com/article/S0002-9394(23)00438-5/fulltext
I suppose the burden of proof rest with those that disagree, but any chance you have proof of this? I don't believe it. -CharlieDetection has increased, not incidence.