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Allowed Internet CE by State...Please contribute

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by Paul Farkas, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. Paul Farkas

    Paul Farkas Administrator

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    The last survey done was for CEwire2016 to allow ODs to determine how many on line CE credits for re-licensure are allowed by their state board...

    https://www.odwire.org/community/wiki/2016-ce-requirements-by-state/

    During the past year, your state board may have changed their allowable number of credits.
    CEwire 2017 has made every effort to address concerns of some state boards.

    CEwire2017 Live! scheduled for 1/28/17 and 1/29/17 may meet your state board criteria for live attendance, adding as much as 14 hours for CE credit. On those two days the presenter of their course will be in attendance in real time, answering your questions during the course period.

    In addition, the system will be certain you are in attendance during the scheduled course. As with all the courses there is a 10 question multiple choice quiz that requires a passing grade of 70% before an automatic. submission to the state board for CE credit. You may review the course material as often as needed through 5/1/17 at no additional cost, until you achieve a passing grade.

    CEWire2017 is confident that our efforts will have the needed effect of considering our
    CEwire2017 Live! days will be considered live attendance by many state boards.

    As a service to ODs can you check with your state board to determine their position regarding on line CE for 2017 and share it with us.

    Thank you.
     
  2. Frederick Frost

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    Ohio 10 hours


    Fred
     
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    Maximum of 20 hours online CE, of which 10 can be oral/tpa.
     
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    Mississippi - 4 hrs online, ridiculous I know.
     
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    Thank you for the very rapid responses. All three appear to have no change from 2016.

    Did you actually communicate with your state board regarding CEwire2017 Live! That where there is a major difference from other on line courses. The instructor is present in real time.
     
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    North Carolina is 6 hours of non-certified credit
     
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    Texas-- 8 hrs
     
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    2016- 16 hours online ( all)
    2017 - 10 hours online (moved up to 20 hours needed)

    This was proposed by the VOA, obvious they just want more money for conferences etc. I mean, do we really need four more hours a year and required traveling expenses for the rest of our career because Lifitegrast came out?
     
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    Oregon - all 18/year.
     
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    Wait until the ROCK inhibitors come to fruition. That will easily add 5 hours/year for forever.
     
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    Wish they had a dislike button, but you get props for it.
     
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    Maryland is 20 hours over 2 years
     
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    I asked the board after the first CE wire and they said it didn't matter still 10 hours Ohio


    Fred
     
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    Delaware is 6 hours ( i think)...but with our new therapeutic laws it may be changing...
     
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    Too bad. The CEWire2017 Live! initiative makes on line education, in my opinion, superior to to sitting in a crowded classroom. How are ODs evaluated if they have absorbed the material if there is no quiz? The room is dark and a perfect place to play with an iPad or take a nap.

    By having attendance guaranteed and the ability to ask the instructor questions in real time, combined with passing a quiz there is a far greater chance the OD will be educated. If they fail the quiz they can retake the course and quiz through
    May 1, 2017 at no additional charge.

    This approach is in the public interest guaranteeing the OD has leaned the material.. State boards mission is to protect the public.

    We have to hope some state boards will reconsider their position and make life easier for practicing OD.
     
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    I believe Wisconsin is 6 hours per 2 year cycle.
     
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    I was hoping someone would check with their state board to determine if CEwire2017Live! can be considered the same as attending a live bricks and mortars presentation.

    Using the data that is linked above does not assist in knowing if your state board has changed their allowable on line hours for the past year.
     
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    I wonder if this is something that could be challenged in court if state boads refuse to allow live taking of internet classes as equal to going to physical classes? The internet lecture with questions and answers and a test is clearly superior.

    Seems to me someone must be getting kickbacks from the continuing education industry to oppose live internet classes. I'm going to send Putin an email today and see if he can get to the bottom of this.
     
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    Michael W Ohlson

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    You will want to keep the approach aimed at the public welfare, yes.

    Effective CME/CE is possible. Some is, some isn't. Identifying an issue (practice gap), assessing the need, planning the education properly, and screening for effectiveness (more than a test, yet might not include a test) is the way of accredited CME/CE. One doesn't need to always succeed; one needs to assess and then seek to improve the next time. Your format will ultimately allow for this IMO and fairly easily.

    It's difficult to effect change. There will be pushback. But, it's difficult to resist positive effects on knowledge, competency, and performance in practice.



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