IbisVision to launch online patient prescription checker at NY’s Vision Expo East

[Gretchyn Bailey]

IbisVision to launch online patient prescription checker at NY’s Vision Expo East

IbisVision, the market leader in remote eyecare technology, is travelling to New York’s Vision Expo East this month to meet with clients and demonstrate a new service that helps patients’ pre-consultation to check their prescriptions online and helps optical businesses prepare for sales of new eyewear.

IbisVision’s innovative new feature, IBIS Re-Check, empowers patients to measure their own prescription using patented technology. This ground-breaking system can detect any changes in patient’s optical needs since their last appointment. Consultants can then anticipate any necessary prescription adjustments and prepare for potential sales of new glasses and lenses. By seamlessly integrating eye tests with sales activities, IBIS Re-Check reduces time wastage in clinical settings. This feature is a valuable addition to IbisVision’s remote solution, IBIS-Engage, which already provides a range of clinician-led eye tests online. With IBIS Re-Check, eye care organizations can now offer both clinician-led and patient self-serve services, enhancing their flexibility and the quality of care they provide.

IbisVision will also show off its new branding at the event, including the renaming of its platform as it seeks to help optical businesses create a holistic eyecare environment that more easily links clinicians with patients with a clear pathway from clinic to sales so as to increase revenue and lower costs.

Speaking in advance of the conference IbisVision CEO Mark Rogers said: "Technology is all about helping us use resources wisely. If we can shift the responsibility for the initial check of a prescription to the patient themselves that leaves the highly qualified eye doctor available for interventions where their input is vital. In this case the eye doctor enters the process when the system, working with the patient, flags changed prescription requirements

“The second revolution with this process is in making the sale of new eyewear easier for both the doctor and patient. The eye doctor now knows which client is likely to need to purchase new eyewear and can prepare accordingly. A smoother sales system means less time wasted, therefore less money wasted, therefore a more profitable optical business that can invest more in looking after its patients. It's a win-win!

“As a clinician-focused business we love meeting our clients and potential clients, so I'd encourage anyone at Vision Expo East to come and see us and try out this revolutionary technology for themselves.”



IbisVision will be at stand: The Focus F2448


Come and meet the team:

CEO, Mark Roger

Newly appointed COO, Steve Ingram

Head of Marketing, Laura Hillhouse-Fleming

Head of Product, Mel Berwick

Head of US Operations, Erica Goldberg


You can also pre-book meetings with our team, here.

 

[Clarence Widmann]

Of course "the optical business" will never just fill the new result.

 

[Steven E. Nelson]

IbisVision to launch online patient prescription checker at NY’s Vision Expo East

IbisVision, the market leader in remote eyecare technology, is travelling to New York’s Vision Expo East this month to meet with clients and demonstrate a new service that helps patients’ pre-consultation to check their prescriptions online and helps optical businesses prepare for sales of new eyewear.

IbisVision’s innovative new feature, IBIS Re-Check, empowers patients to measure their own prescription using patented technology. This ground-breaking system can detect any changes in patient’s optical needs since their last appointment. Consultants can then anticipate any necessary prescription adjustments and prepare for potential sales of new glasses and lenses. By seamlessly integrating eye tests with sales activities, IBIS Re-Check reduces time wastage in clinical settings. This feature is a valuable addition to IbisVision’s remote solution, IBIS-Engage, which already provides a range of clinician-led eye tests online. With IBIS Re-Check, eye care organizations can now offer both clinician-led and patient self-serve services, enhancing their flexibility and the quality of care they provide.

IbisVision will also show off its new branding at the event, including the renaming of its platform as it seeks to help optical businesses create a holistic eyecare environment that more easily links clinicians with patients with a clear pathway from clinic to sales so as to increase revenue and lower costs.

Speaking in advance of the conference IbisVision CEO Mark Rogers said: "Technology is all about helping us use resources wisely. If we can shift the responsibility for the initial check of a prescription to the patient themselves that leaves the highly qualified eye doctor available for interventions where their input is vital. In this case the eye doctor enters the process when the system, working with the patient, flags changed prescription requirements

“The second revolution with this process is in making the sale of new eyewear easier for both the doctor and patient. The eye doctor now knows which client is likely to need to purchase new eyewear and can prepare accordingly. A smoother sales system means less time wasted, therefore less money wasted, therefore a more profitable optical business that can invest more in looking after its patients. It's a win-win!

“As a clinician-focused business we love meeting our clients and potential clients, so I'd encourage anyone at Vision Expo East to come and see us and try out this revolutionary technology for themselves.”



IbisVision will be at stand: The Focus F2448


Come and meet the team:

CEO, Mark Roger

Newly appointed COO, Steve Ingram

Head of Marketing, Laura Hillhouse-Fleming

Head of Product, Mel Berwick

Head of US Operations, Erica Goldberg


You can also pre-book meetings with our team, here.

Well, that sounds f'ing awful for the public

 

[Jay Desai]

Sorry I initially misread your post as I have GI upset. I thought you said IBS Vision

 

[Steve Silberberg]

Err If you believe that mission statement you can buy a bridge not too far from VEE.

 

[Jeffrey Kiener]

online patient prescription checker. NO SUCH THING. DOES THIS IDIOT MEAN "REFRACTIVE ERROR 'CHECKER'"?

market leader remote eyecare technology. REMOTE EYECARE IS NOT EYE CARE.

Vision Expo East/meet with clients. SUCKERS AND FOOLS.

demonstrate a new service
helps patients’ pre-consultation. OH GIVE ME A BREAK. LET ME GUESS. USE THEIR STUPID PHONE REFRACTOR 'BEFORE' YOU SEE THE DOCTOR. MAKES A HECK OF A LOT OF SENSE. BECAUSE YOU AREN'T JUST A FEW DAYS AWAY FROM A REAL REFRACTION OR ANYTHING.

check their prescriptions online PRESCRIPTIONS ARE ORDERS FOR TREATMENT BY DOCTORS, NOT "REFRACTIVE ERROR MEASUREMENTS". NO DOCTOR = NO PRESCRIPTION

helps optical businesses prepare for sales of new eyewear. FOOLS AND SUCKERS AND UNPROFESSIONAL GREEDY PEOPLE, MORE LIKE.

empowers patients to measure their own prescription EMPOWER THIS!

system can detect any changes in patient’s optical needs since their last appointment NO IT CAN'T. IT REALLY CAN'T.

Consultants can then anticipate any necessary prescription adjustments and prepare for potential sales of new glasses and lenses. OOOOOHHH. I'M SO ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE SMARTPHONE SAYS! WE'LL HAVE AN OFFICE MEETING TO DISCUSS THE FINDINGS AHEAD OF TIME!



If we can shift the responsibility for the initial check of a prescription to the patient themselves GOOD IDEA. LET'S LET PATIENTS PRESCRIBE THEIR OWN LENSES.

that leaves the highly qualified eye doctor available for interventions where their input is vital. WE'RE NOT VITAL, IN THIS OUTFIT'S EYES, EXCEPT TO PUT THEIR CAMEL NOSES UNDER OUR TENTS.

In this case the eye doctor enters the process when the system, working with the patient, flags changed prescription requirements ANY OD THAT WOULD TRUST SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO MAKE DECISIONS SHOULD LITERALLY HAVE THEIR LICENSE YANKED.

The eye doctor now knows which client is likely to need to purchase new eyewear and can prepare accordingly. therefore a more profitable optical business that can invest more in looking after its patients. It's a win-win! MONEY MONEY MONEY. THANK YOU, MR. MIDDLEMAN, FOR YOUR VALUE-ADDED SERVICE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO USE THE DATA, TOO, IN FRONT OF THE FTC SOMETIME SOON, HOPEFULLY AFTER LUXOTTICA PURCHASES YOU AND MAKES YOU I.T. GEEKS ALL RICH AND DISRUPTIVE AND THEY ROLL IT OUT NATIONWIDE IN THEIR KIOSK-HUTS.

 

[Peter E. Tencza O.D.]

online patient prescription checker. NO SUCH THING. DOES THIS IDIOT MEAN "REFRACTIVE ERROR 'CHECKER'"?

market leader remote eyecare technology. REMOTE EYECARE IS NOT EYE CARE.

Vision Expo East/meet with clients. SUCKERS AND FOOLS.

demonstrate a new service
helps patients’ pre-consultation. OH GIVE ME A BREAK. LET ME GUESS. USE THEIR STUPID PHONE REFRACTOR 'BEFORE' YOU SEE THE DOCTOR. MAKES A HECK OF A LOT OF SENSE. BECAUSE YOU AREN'T JUST A FEW DAYS AWAY FROM A REAL REFRACTION OR ANYTHING.

check their prescriptions online PRESCRIPTIONS ARE ORDERS FOR TREATMENT BY DOCTORS, NOT "REFRACTIVE ERROR MEASUREMENTS". NO DOCTOR = NO PRESCRIPTION

helps optical businesses prepare for sales of new eyewear. FOOLS AND SUCKERS AND UNPROFESSIONAL GREEDY PEOPLE, MORE LIKE.

empowers patients to measure their own prescription EMPOWER THIS!

system can detect any changes in patient’s optical needs since their last appointment NO IT CAN'T. IT REALLY CAN'T.

Consultants can then anticipate any necessary prescription adjustments and prepare for potential sales of new glasses and lenses. OOOOOHHH. I'M SO ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE SMARTPHONE SAYS! WE'LL HAVE AN OFFICE MEETING TO DISCUSS THE FINDINGS AHEAD OF TIME!



If we can shift the responsibility for the initial check of a prescription to the patient themselves GOOD IDEA. LET'S LET PATIENTS PRESCRIBE THEIR OWN LENSES.

that leaves the highly qualified eye doctor available for interventions where their input is vital. WE'RE NOT VITAL, IN THIS OUTFIT'S EYES, EXCEPT TO PUT THEIR CAMEL NOSES UNDER OUR TENTS.

In this case the eye doctor enters the process when the system, working with the patient, flags changed prescription requirements ANY OD THAT WOULD TRUST SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO MAKE DECISIONS SHOULD LITERALLY HAVE THEIR LICENSE YANKED.

The eye doctor now knows which client is likely to need to purchase new eyewear and can prepare accordingly. therefore a more profitable optical business that can invest more in looking after its patients. It's a win-win! MONEY MONEY MONEY. THANK YOU, MR. MIDDLEMAN, FOR YOUR VALUE-ADDED SERVICE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO USE THE DATA, TOO, IN FRONT OF THE FTC SOMETIME SOON, HOPEFULLY AFTER LUXOTTICA PURCHASES YOU AND MAKES YOU I.T. GEEKS ALL RICH AND DISRUPTIVE AND THEY ROLL IT OUT NATIONWIDE IN THEIR KIOSK-HUTS.

Wife just bought robot sweeper..very expensive..

Took it back next day

Did t work well.

AI CANT EVEN SWEEP FLOORS!!!

 

[Lloyd Pate]

IbisVision to launch online patient prescription checker at NY’s Vision Expo East

IbisVision, the market leader in remote eyecare technology, is travelling to New York’s Vision Expo East this month to meet with clients and demonstrate a new service that helps patients’ pre-consultation to check their prescriptions online and helps optical businesses prepare for sales of new eyewear.

IbisVision’s innovative new feature, IBIS Re-Check, empowers patients to measure their own prescription using patented technology. This ground-breaking system can detect any changes in patient’s optical needs since their last appointment. Consultants can then anticipate any necessary prescription adjustments and prepare for potential sales of new glasses and lenses. By seamlessly integrating eye tests with sales activities, IBIS Re-Check reduces time wastage in clinical settings. This feature is a valuable addition to IbisVision’s remote solution, IBIS-Engage, which already provides a range of clinician-led eye tests online. With IBIS Re-Check, eye care organizations can now offer both clinician-led and patient self-serve services, enhancing their flexibility and the quality of care they provide.

IbisVision will also show off its new branding at the event, including the renaming of its platform as it seeks to help optical businesses create a holistic eyecare environment that more easily links clinicians with patients with a clear pathway from clinic to sales so as to increase revenue and lower costs.

Speaking in advance of the conference IbisVision CEO Mark Rogers said: "Technology is all about helping us use resources wisely. If we can shift the responsibility for the initial check of a prescription to the patient themselves that leaves the highly qualified eye doctor available for interventions where their input is vital. In this case the eye doctor enters the process when the system, working with the patient, flags changed prescription requirements

“The second revolution with this process is in making the sale of new eyewear easier for both the doctor and patient. The eye doctor now knows which client is likely to need to purchase new eyewear and can prepare accordingly. A smoother sales system means less time wasted, therefore less money wasted, therefore a more profitable optical business that can invest more in looking after its patients. It's a win-win!

“As a clinician-focused business we love meeting our clients and potential clients, so I'd encourage anyone at Vision Expo East to come and see us and try out this revolutionary technology for themselves.”



IbisVision will be at stand: The Focus F2448


Come and meet the team:

CEO, Mark Roger

Newly appointed COO, Steve Ingram

Head of Marketing, Laura Hillhouse-Fleming

Head of Product, Mel Berwick

Head of US Operations, Erica Goldberg


You can also pre-book meetings with our team, here.

 

[Steve Silberberg]

I think the masses have spoken

 

[Peter E. Tencza O.D.]

AI..AI..AI...

Love it..

Getting estimates on new windows...

Guy called
..lost.

GPS took him 10 miles away!

Just can't make this sh t up!!

 

[Clarence Widmann]

Hopefully this ends up like Blink

 

[Steven E. Nelson]

I guess my question is why the f would they need to check their prescription prior to seeing the doctor who’s going to do that anyway?

What they’re trying to do is normalize automated refraction as a prescription as part of the on-going effort to separate optical from optometry and make it a stand-alone retail endeavor.

It’s disconcerting that the VEE administration is so stupid as a group that they’re eager to “embrace new technology” and have it at their conference rather than rejecting it outright as the f’ing poison it is.

 

[Steve Silberberg]

I guess my question is why the f would they need to check their prescription prior to seeing the doctor who’s going to do that anyway?

What they’re trying to do is normalize automated refraction as a prescription as part of the on-going effort to separate optical from optometry and make it a stand-alone retail endeavor.

It’s disconcerting that the VEE administration is so stupid as a group that they’re eager to “embrace new technology” and have it at their conference rather than rejecting it outright as the f’ing poison it is.

Steve, it saves the Dr. the time of saying "Your prescription has changed" . I timed that at 2 seconds

Just wait..They'll probably print it in + cylinder form. The Sh gonna hit the fan then

 

[Steven E. Nelson]

NATIONWIDE IN THEIR KIOSK-HUTS.

You do understand exactly how close we are to that, right? I mean, we're essentially just a few signatures away from it and it's EASY to sell it as a public service. Hell, as much as I know how bad it is, I could get Congress on board with it tomorrow because the talking points sell themselves.

 

[Jeffrey Kiener]

What they’re trying to do is normalize automated refraction as a prescription as part of the on-going effort to separate optical from optometry and make it a stand-alone retail endeavor.

That's exactly it.

 

[Mike Ware OD]

IbisVision to launch online patient prescription checker at NY’s Vision Expo East

IbisVision, the market leader in remote eyecare technology, is travelling to New York’s Vision Expo East this month to meet with clients and demonstrate a new service that helps patients’ pre-consultation to check their prescriptions online and helps optical businesses prepare for sales of new eyewear.

IbisVision’s innovative new feature, IBIS Re-Check, empowers patients to measure their own prescription using patented technology. This ground-breaking system can detect any changes in patient’s optical needs since their last appointment. Consultants can then anticipate any necessary prescription adjustments and prepare for potential sales of new glasses and lenses. By seamlessly integrating eye tests with sales activities, IBIS Re-Check reduces time wastage in clinical settings. This feature is a valuable addition to IbisVision’s remote solution, IBIS-Engage, which already provides a range of clinician-led eye tests online. With IBIS Re-Check, eye care organizations can now offer both clinician-led and patient self-serve services, enhancing their flexibility and the quality of care they provide.

IbisVision will also show off its new branding at the event, including the renaming of its platform as it seeks to help optical businesses create a holistic eyecare environment that more easily links clinicians with patients with a clear pathway from clinic to sales so as to increase revenue and lower costs.

Speaking in advance of the conference IbisVision CEO Mark Rogers said: "Technology is all about helping us use resources wisely. If we can shift the responsibility for the initial check of a prescription to the patient themselves that leaves the highly qualified eye doctor available for interventions where their input is vital. In this case the eye doctor enters the process when the system, working with the patient, flags changed prescription requirements

“The second revolution with this process is in making the sale of new eyewear easier for both the doctor and patient. The eye doctor now knows which client is likely to need to purchase new eyewear and can prepare accordingly. A smoother sales system means less time wasted, therefore less money wasted, therefore a more profitable optical business that can invest more in looking after its patients. It's a win-win!

“As a clinician-focused business we love meeting our clients and potential clients, so I'd encourage anyone at Vision Expo East to come and see us and try out this revolutionary technology for themselves.”



IbisVision will be at stand: The Focus F2448


Come and meet the team:

CEO, Mark Roger

Newly appointed COO, Steve Ingram

Head of Marketing, Laura Hillhouse-Fleming

Head of Product, Mel Berwick

Head of US Operations, Erica Goldberg


You can also pre-book meetings with our team, here.

Kills me the way these type of shysters use terms like "clinician focused", "holistic eyecare", and "quality of eyecare" to try and mask their only true intent which is to sell as many pairs of glasses as possible and to hell with all that ocular disease stuff.

I wish them and any OD that partners with them nothing but failure in their endeavor.

 

[Derek Coombs]

Ibis also offering:

Disease Progression Monitoring

Remote Patient Monitoring

Remote Triage

Online eye exams

Video Consultations

etc.

 

[A A Camblor]

online patient prescription checker. NO SUCH THING. DOES THIS IDIOT MEAN "REFRACTIVE ERROR 'CHECKER'"?

market leader remote eyecare technology. REMOTE EYECARE IS NOT EYE CARE.

Vision Expo East/meet with clients. SUCKERS AND FOOLS.

demonstrate a new service
helps patients’ pre-consultation. OH GIVE ME A BREAK. LET ME GUESS. USE THEIR STUPID PHONE REFRACTOR 'BEFORE' YOU SEE THE DOCTOR. MAKES A HECK OF A LOT OF SENSE. BECAUSE YOU AREN'T JUST A FEW DAYS AWAY FROM A REAL REFRACTION OR ANYTHING.

check their prescriptions online PRESCRIPTIONS ARE ORDERS FOR TREATMENT BY DOCTORS, NOT "REFRACTIVE ERROR MEASUREMENTS". NO DOCTOR = NO PRESCRIPTION

helps optical businesses prepare for sales of new eyewear. FOOLS AND SUCKERS AND UNPROFESSIONAL GREEDY PEOPLE, MORE LIKE.

empowers patients to measure their own prescription EMPOWER THIS!

system can detect any changes in patient’s optical needs since their last appointment NO IT CAN'T. IT REALLY CAN'T.

Consultants can then anticipate any necessary prescription adjustments and prepare for potential sales of new glasses and lenses. OOOOOHHH. I'M SO ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE SMARTPHONE SAYS! WE'LL HAVE AN OFFICE MEETING TO DISCUSS THE FINDINGS AHEAD OF TIME!



If we can shift the responsibility for the initial check of a prescription to the patient themselves GOOD IDEA. LET'S LET PATIENTS PRESCRIBE THEIR OWN LENSES.

that leaves the highly qualified eye doctor available for interventions where their input is vital. WE'RE NOT VITAL, IN THIS OUTFIT'S EYES, EXCEPT TO PUT THEIR CAMEL NOSES UNDER OUR TENTS.

In this case the eye doctor enters the process when the system, working with the patient, flags changed prescription requirements ANY OD THAT WOULD TRUST SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO MAKE DECISIONS SHOULD LITERALLY HAVE THEIR LICENSE YANKED.

The eye doctor now knows which client is likely to need to purchase new eyewear and can prepare accordingly. therefore a more profitable optical business that can invest more in looking after its patients. It's a win-win! MONEY MONEY MONEY. THANK YOU, MR. MIDDLEMAN, FOR YOUR VALUE-ADDED SERVICE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO USE THE DATA, TOO, IN FRONT OF THE FTC SOMETIME SOON, HOPEFULLY AFTER LUXOTTICA PURCHASES YOU AND MAKES YOU I.T. GEEKS ALL RICH AND DISRUPTIVE AND THEY ROLL IT OUT NATIONWIDE IN THEIR KIOSK-HUTS.

Thanks for the laughs.

 

[Jay Desai]

VEE lost a customer. I refuse to attend their CE if they promote this garbage

 

[Matt Judd]

what are we going to do when every retail company switches to remote eye exams?

 

[Gretchyn Bailey]

I'll try to set up a meeting at VEE to meet with them.

Do you have specific questions you want me to ask?

 

[Mike Ware OD]

I'll try to set up a meeting at VEE to meet with them.

Do you have specific questions you want me to ask?

Ask them how their "innovative" technology detects ocular disease that does not immediately impact vision like glaucoma, retina detachments, diabetic retinopathy, etc.
Also ask them if they are aware that just updating a patient's Rx can delay treatment of the conditions I just mentioned.

Oh and tell them Dr Ware in Tupelo, Mississippi says they can go to hell.

 

[Steve Silberberg]

I'll try to set up a meeting at VEE to meet with them.

Do you have specific questions you want me to ask?

I hate to be negative Gretchyn. You can try but they'll likely just paint the same rosy picture their long mission statements outline. I would make a list of points made here and perhaps by others to see how they field the questions.

The real problem is it may be what 3rd party wants in their models as well as much of the general public

 

[Steven E. Nelson]

I'll try to set up a meeting at VEE to meet with them.

Do you have specific questions you want me to ask?

Sure, ask them if they have any understanding or concern for the dramatic effect on public health of removing refraction from the ocular health portion of an eye exam OR how their system detects/accommodates for both disease processes that affect rx like corneal edema from contact lens wear or even things like accommodative dysfunction. MOST of the reason blindness in this country is so much less of a concern for Americans than other parts of the world is that:

1) A prescription requires a DOCTOR
2) A doctor is required to assess incredibly important ocular health metrics as part of the examination for that prescription.

There are many things that can affect a final prescription and the thing that makes a doctor better than an autorefractor is that we UNDERSTAND those things and are evaluating things like the cornea, retina, accommodative system etc before issuing a final prescription. We, many times, don't just write what's on the phoroptor on a piece of paper and virtually never whats on the autorefractor.

We take those subtle nuances for granted as actually "beneath us" in the world of being medical optometrists, but they're only simple because of years of training and learning how patient care actually works.

 

[Matt Judd]

ask them if I can have some stock

 

[Michael W Ohlson]

I doubt this tech is ready for prime time.

However, the trends and human nature favor this type of thing in the near future. I’m not promoting that. I’m just stating the obvious.

Payers don’t want to reimburse. Pts don’t like to pay much. Convenience reigns. Optometry enabled/endorsed crazed discounts and free care. Some ODs don’t practice to scope-level.

The tech will improve quickly.

Many ODs screen, detect, refer. Anyone can or will be able to screen, detect, refer. There’s no future in it.

We’re regulated, not owed. Hoping regulatory capture will protect optometry, a very small profession with declining advocacy membership, is unwise.

We’re capable of mx’ing these trends. I’m not sure we will do so. But we’re capable.

 

[Douglas Glazer OD]

what are we going to do when every retail company switches to remote eye exams?

A lot of rechecks

 

[Jay Desai]

2022 at VEE, I acted aloof at the booth promoting tele-optometry. Tech does exam, doc is on screen. A sales rep told me I look familiar. I did troll comments on their FB page. Turns out rep confused me with a different doc.

 

[Clarence Widmann]

what are we going to do when every retail company switches to remote eye exams?

We're going to take a hit at first but if we continue with superior care the retail companies will start to fizzle.

I understand I don't know how many patients are happy with remote exams but I also know that 9 out of ten patients that complain to us about their last exam all complain about the same office. And that is the office doing remote exams.

 

[Mike Ware OD]

Serious question: Is there really an undersupply of ODs? I mean if the public actually needs "x" number of ODs in a given area but there are twice as many opticals in that area that can't find a doctor is there really a "shortage" or just too damn many opticals?

 

[Steven E. Nelson]

I understand I don't know how many patients are happy with remote exams

You have to appreciate the generational differences in play here. Most M's and even more GenZ MUCH prefer a digital option over a human. If there's not an app for it, they don't even consider it legitimate.

WE understand the limitations of remote and AI, but patients don't and if they can get an "eye exam" from their desk at work (what they perceive as an eye exam, that is - hence the need for the state boards to act as their advocate), they consider that VASTLY superior to an in-office visit.

 

[Steve Silberberg]

We're going to take a hit at first but if we continue with superior care the retail companies will start to fizzle.

I understand I don't know how many patients are happy with remote exams but I also know that 9 out of ten patients that complain to us about their last exam all complain about the same office. And that is the office doing remote exams.

And how many where the + readers from CVS Walgreens etc ?

 

[Gretchyn Bailey]

We didn't need Uber and Lyft, yet here they are...

 

[Matt Judd]

We didn't need Uber and Lyft, yet here they are...

yup. this is my concern. many of us have a hard time seeing outside our world view and opinions.

We just need to make sure we protect the patients and honestly our profession. we will adapt somehow but we cant just
let companies provide healthcare without a license

 

[Mike Ware OD]

We didn't need Uber and Lyft, yet here they are...

Giving people rides does not compromise the health of their eyes and delay diagnosis of vision and even life threatening conditions. I would wager that just about every OD here has seen patients with conditions that could have led to life threatening consequences if not caught during a routine exam but hey lets just say to hell with that stuff and just update their glasses so we can make things even worse on down the road.

Too many folks seem to be easily blinded by shiny new tech stuff when in reality it is the same old bullshit that companies like Opternative have been pedaling for years. Might as well put a damn eye chart on a box of Wheaties and call it a "vision checker".
Adapting to shoddy technology is not always the answer if we truly care about the health of patients.

 

[Steven E. Nelson]

We didn't need Uber and Lyft, yet here they are...

Perhaps it's not being a clinician that led you to think that's a valid comparison.

There's very little functional difference between Uber and a taxi. A cab driver doesn't receive more "driving classes" than an Uber or Lyft, there's just a difference in regulation and traffic laws are universal for all drivers. For things like taxi vs uber, it's just a market force issue and that's absolutely not the case here.

In this case, there's an indescribable gulf between an OD examining a patient and that patient having an online refraction. While the "market" may want to have online refraction, they're truly not educated enough to understand what they're NOT getting and that's where a little bit of regulation by a board absolutely protects them from their own ignorance. Most patients have no understanding of or appreciation for what we're actually doing outside of asking whether one or two is better.

 

[Steven E. Nelson]

Giving people rides does not compromise the health of their eyes and delay diagnosis of vision and even life threatening conditions. I would wager that just about every OD here has seen patients with conditions that could have led to life threatening consequences if not caught during a routine exam but hey lets just say to hell with that stuff and just update their glasses so we can make things even worse on down the road.

Too many folks seem to be easily blinded by shiny new tech stuff when in reality it is the same old bullshit that companies like Opternative have been pedaling for years. Might as well put a damn eye chart on a box of Wheaties and call it a "vision checker".
Adapting to shoddy technology is not always the answer if we truly care about the health of patients.

You beat me to it

 

[Jay Desai]

They are setting health kiosks in India. Perfect to match with VisionSpring to provide eyecare to the rural poor in India! https://vivolution.co.uk/portfolio/ibisvision/

 

[Gretchyn Bailey]

Sigh. I KNOW that Uber/Lyft is not the same as an ocular health exam. I was pointing out that in today's world, need has nothing to do with it.

 

[Steven E. Nelson]

Sigh. I KNOW that Uber/Lyft is not the same as an ocular health exam. I was pointing out that in today's world, need has nothing to do with it.

Don’t roll your eyes like “these dumbasses didn’t get my point.” There’s a huge difference between two people with the exact same training and abilities doing the same thing and a retailer trying to manipulate the market to allow them to do something potentially harmful.

With Uber/Lyft, it was the market creating an equivalent, more convenient alternative. With this, it’s a retailer trying to fraudulently create the ILLUSION of an equivalent under the guise of convenience.