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Who has natural 20/10 vision?

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by Greg Gemoules, Mar 23, 2016.

  1. Greg Gemoules

    Greg Gemoules Well-Known Member

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    Hollywood TV producer (Amazing Race, American's Next Model, etc.) is looking for people with natural 20/10 or better vision for new reality TV show.

    Please PM me if you qualify or know someone who does.
     
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    I qualify.
     
  3. Greg Gemoules

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    Seriously? Can you tell me what your unaided visual acuity is? Maybe you have a second career ahead of you.
     
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    I USED to be...now at 44, my +0.75 has me at 20/15. I don't think I can rock a full 20/10 anymore.

    I'll check.
     
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    OD 20/10+
    OS 20/10-

    Edit: And when I did some academia research subject stuff in school I was around 20/8 and 20/7 "ish" with cycloplegia.
     
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    Yes, me too, although at that size it's almost like guesswork. However, I have had patients read off the 20/10 line with ease and no mistakes which indicated to me that they could go even smaller.

    So, anyway I practically own those search terms on Google and that's how I got the attention of this producer. I told him that I knew a number of people who have read the 20/10 line but needed lenses to do it. I guess that's not what he is looking for.
     
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    Some patients can do 20/10 after LASIK, but usually fades to a solid 20/20 with time.

    Still remember an ophthalmologist (Navy) years ago who may have purposely set the 20/20 line a tad "large" on his vintage AO POC.
     
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    Mine is an old AO projection chart using an incandescent bulb with shadows and dust specs. I also double check with a near chart held out to 32 inches...or more as needed. I've learned over the years that my patients seem to do better on others' eye charts.
     
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    Some patients are surprisingly good at blur interpretation. Might be a cultural thing.

    Who hasn't had a 3 y/o easily read 20/20 (Snellen) while older children or some adults will struggle with the letters.
     
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    How about Chuck Norris?

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    Are you going to be the one who tells Chuck Norris he doesn't have 20/20 vision?
     
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    So, Tom, my impression is that you are skeptical that patients who report 20/10 vision are either reading poorly calibrated eye charts or just good at guessing. :confused:
     
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    Chuck Norris can see the eye chart from his home.
     
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    To some extent, yes. BTW, I use a calibrated AO/Reichert POC, no mirrors.

    Twenty + years ago when I was in the Navy, VA's were tested using random letters on multiple magnetic strips that could be quickly repositioned on a chart at exactly 20 feet from the patient. It usually took two corpsman to administer the test, one to see that the patient completely cover one eye and the other to point to the line to be read. Uncorrected 20/20 was required for flight training.

    They probably use electronic charts now.
     
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    There is a lot of variability in optotypes. But, I have had a few patients with documented 20/10 who have had that repeated at their other OD offices. You should not be so skeptical. I typically go many years before I have a patient who can read 20/10 naturally. But then I am not really aggressive about testing it because that slide is only in one room. With retinoscopy you can almost tell by the optics that the patient is going to do well. I had this one optometry student patient who was injured by LASIK complications and the best she could do in one eye with a mini-scleral was a poor 20/30. I made what I think was my first wavefront-guided lens for her and she could read the 20/10 line with ease. It was an incredible moment for both she and I. She would send me emails about going to sporting events and comparing her vision to her classmates. She said she could see iris color across a room.
     
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    Sea story time; I was once admonished (chewed out) for letting a candidate slip thru the vision test. Turned out that the fellow had simply written in his refractive error (Plano OU) and 20/20 vision. Wasn't my fault. Didn't matter. No apology was ever given. Commanding officers are never wrong.
     
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    Aha! That a**-chewing had an effect! You'll never slack off on another visual acuity test. :D
     
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    Air force pilots! I saw several of them when I was doing an externship in Goldsboro.
     
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    Also professional baseball players.